Not sure what I have.
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Not sure what I have.
I got this Mosin Nagant (what im told) and I been looking up when/where it was made but Im not having any luck. Best I can tell it might be chineses guessing from the markings. Its in rough shape.
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Re: Not sure what I have.
It's a Mauser, (looks a lot like a Gew88, but Mausers aren't my cup of tea) with what appears to be Chinese stamped on it. The Chinese where big with Mausers pre Communist time.
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Not a Mosin, not even close, not a Mauser either, this is a Chinese copy of the German Commission 1888. Welcome to the board, Mosins are easy enough to find, any gunshop either has one ( or more) or can get you one easily enough. Chinese commission 88's are harder to find, but I would consider them as collectables for wall decoration rather than a rifle I would fire.
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Re: Not sure what I have.
It's a "Hanyang" rifle a Chinese version of the German Gew.88.
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Alright cool. How old you guys think this is? Should I try to fine someone to fix it up or keep it as is?
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If you "fix it up" it will lose most of its value. There were about a million made from 1895 until mid 40's. It is doubtful what caliber it is chambered for the were originally chambered for the early German .318 bore 8x57mm cartridge, which continued to be used in China till 1935. Some may have been chambered for the 8x57S cartridge that the Chinese used in the Chiang Kai-shek Rifle. In any case I wouldn't consider it a shootable rifle. A collectable to be certain.murray1246 wrote:Alright cool. How old you guys think this is? Should I try to fine someone to fix it up or keep it as is?
Resale value for this one may be perhaps $130, though that's a pure guess. It might be worth more to a collector of these rifles. One in very good condition might go for around $800.
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It for sure isnt in good condition. Its been used as a deer rifle for years before I got it from a friend of mine but it hasnt been fired for a few years.
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I have a similar rifle but mine isn't Chinese. I notice yours does not have the typical barrel of a Gew88 Commission rifle which had a shroud around the barrel which made the barrel look very large in diameter. I am not sure if the Chinese changed the barrel or it was made that way from the beginning. I would have to look it up but you can get all the info you need from Googling the info the guys gave you above. Very cool old rifle.
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A copy of a conversion 1888 Commision rifle without the barrel shroud by the looks of it. I say oil it up to prevent further degradation & hang it on the wall. It's shooting days are over IMHO...Junk Yard Dog wrote:Not a Mosin, not even close, not a Mauser either, this is a Chinese copy of the German Commission 1888. Welcome to the board, Mosins are easy enough to find, any gunshop either has one ( or more) or can get you one easily enough. Chinese commission 88's are harder to find, but I would consider them as collectables for wall decoration rather than a rifle I would fire.
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Re: Not sure what I have.
judging from the reciver markings it maybe a fairly early hanyang later ones had typicaly a reverse swazika marking and the 2 diget year code you add 12, (1912 the founding year of the chinese republic) to the year code to find out the year made Mines a year 30 or 1942. like the other posters said consider it a wall hanger but your does look better than most