Real or Bubba?? M38?

sheepdog120 · Post by **sheepdog120** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:38 pm

This guy is selling this local to me... I have no idea what it is. Any ideas?

Post by **Junk Yard Dog** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:48 pm

Looks like a typical Soviet refurb M38, probably imported around 10 years ago.

Post by **Longcolt44** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:57 pm

I would like to know why the import stamp says M44???

Post by **Junk Yard Dog** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:01 pm

Century was known for screwing the pooch on some import marks years ago. That M38 looks to be in a M44 stock, and is dated 1944, but that is a typical M38 barrel and front sight from what I can see of it.

bocephus · Post by **bocephus** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:41 pm

Maybe it's just a bad pic but the stock looks horrible in that 2nd pic, refinished?

81turbota · Post by **81turbota** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:50 pm

The import mark isn't the end all. I saw an "M38" on the auction site, import marked M38 but it was a 91/59.

Nice rifle!

WeldonHunter · Post by **WeldonHunter** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:12 am

Yep, I have a VZ24 Mauser from Century that's marked "M1969 22 CAL Romania" with X X X X over it and no other identification. I also have a Romanian M1969 Trainer bought at the same time that came from Century marked the same exact way.

redspoon · Post by **redspoon** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:58 am

Probably bubba as mentioned elsewhere, should be 3 or 4 more inches of barrel between front sight and fore stock. Someone didn't like the pig sticker on their M44.

Post by **Darryl** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:15 am

Barrel does look a little "short".....?????

Dolk

Post by **Junk Yard Dog** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:51 am

How come I have to expand the pictures 60% to see that? My glasses are only 15 years old, they should still be fine right?

MarksmanTim · Post by **MarksmanTim** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:50 am

First thing I noticed is the barrel doesn't stick out of the stock very far. Seems like a lot of work for bubba to be able to cut the barrel and remount the original sight though?

Also, I'm happy Century screws up their import marks. I bought my M28/30 for a great price because it was import marked as a M27, so that's what the seller thought it was!

Post by **Darryl** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:01 am

[quote="MarksmanTim"]First thing I noticed is the barrel doesn't stick out of the stock very far. Seems like a lot of work for bubba to be able to cut the barrel and remount the original sight though?

[quote] That is not an "original" m44 front site. It looks shorter like a M38 or M91/30 front site.

Miller Tyme · Post by **Miller Tyme** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:21 pm

dolk wrote:
MarksmanTim wrote:First thing I noticed is the barrel doesn't stick out of the stock very far. Seems like a lot of work for bubba to be able to cut the barrel and remount the original sight though?

That is not an "original" m44 front site. It looks shorter like a M38 or M91/30 front site.

+1, the M44 front sight is part of the bayo mount, appears to be an M38 front sight, the base of the front sight attachs via a collar on that rifle, like an M38's.

Ehtball · Post by **Ehtball** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:00 pm

looks like a M-38 in an arsenal refurb M-44 stock. bubba probably hasn't got to it (yet)
Jeff H

WeldonHunter · Post by **WeldonHunter** » Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:18 am

Ehtball wrote:looks like a M-38 in an arsenal refurb M-44 stock. bubba probably hasn't got to it (yet)
Jeff H

You can see the bayonet cutout in the bottom picture.

qz2026 · Post by **qz2026** » Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:44 am

81turbota wrote:The import mark isn't the end all. I saw an "M38" on the auction site, import marked M38 but it was a 91/59.

Nice rifle!

And I snatched that one up

qz2026 · Post by **qz2026** » Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:48 am

This one is a mystery to me. The shank stampings looks typical M-44 as well as the date. The stock looks to be M-44. I would like to see more picture of the muzzle area. JYD is probably right though. My 91/38 w/bayonet was import marked as an M-44. I have an M-44 that Century also marked as a T-53. So, it's likely, but not certain, that this is what they say it is - an M-38 but I have seen ex M-44 bubbas altered to M-38 configuration.

finloq · Post by **finloq** » Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:16 pm

Yeah, my 91/38 is import marked as an M91

clayshooter2 · Post by **clayshooter2** » Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:17 am

finloq wrote:Yeah, my 91/38 is import marked as an M91

Well, it used to be a M91...

Post by **Rongo** » Fri Oct 24, 2014 5:18 am

dolk wrote:Barrel does look a little "short".....?????

Dolk

In the picture the muzzle is away from the camera making it look shorter... My best guess.

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