Tell me more about my M38
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Tell me more about my M38
Hello this is my first time posting and first Mosin.
I would greatly appreciate if you guys could tell me more about this rifle. This is what I have figured out through my research:
-1944 Izhevsk M38
-wartime production stock
-likely forced numbers matching?
-not counter-bored
-not extremely rare
What do you guys think? Also, is it ok to remove the cosmoline? (NOT SANDING)
I would greatly appreciate if you guys could tell me more about this rifle. This is what I have figured out through my research:
-1944 Izhevsk M38
-wartime production stock
-likely forced numbers matching?
-not counter-bored
-not extremely rare
What do you guys think? Also, is it ok to remove the cosmoline? (NOT SANDING)
- Junk Yard Dog
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Re: Tell me more about my M38
Cosmoline wipes off, that's because it's good old axle grease, that's what the commies used, only we used real cosmoline, and cosmoline can be a pain in the ass to remove. Looks like you have the ID nailed, it's also a Molot import, that woul dbe the modern looking markings, Molot is a Russian exporter. Nice carbine
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
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Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
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Re: Tell me more about my M38
+1 You and JYD have got it figured out. Congrats on the nice addition to your collection and welcome to the Forum! Oh, btw...she's sitting in an M44 stock with the cutout for the bayonet. It is very common for the Soviets to have done this and doesn't really affect the value in a negative way. If she was sitting in an M38 stock that would be a nice bonus.Junk Yard Dog wrote:Cosmoline wipes off, that's because it's good old axle grease, that's what the commies used, only we used real cosmoline, and cosmoline can be a pain in the ass to remove. Looks like you have the ID nailed, it's also a Molot import, that woul dbe the modern looking markings, Molot is a Russian exporter. Nice carbine
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Re: Tell me more about my M38
I did not know it was a M44 stock. This gun is a complete refurb then? How much would you pay for this rifle? I paid $275 in Canada.
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They would pay an insane $275-$300 here. I say insane because the most expensive M38 I ever bought was the rare date 1939, and that was the immense sum ( at the time) of $200. Once spoiled by prices like that you never want to deal with the reality of changing times and higher prices.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Re: Tell me more about my M38
I can't add to what the guys have already said. It looks to be a fine refurb and will likely shoot very well. I like the cartouches on the stock especially the number on the top of the butt stock. Welcome to the forum. Now go out and shoot this little cannon.
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The m38 is a lot of fun and my personal favorite. .
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Re: Tell me more about my M38
Indeed. I got my non-Molot 1943 M38 for $200 just a couple of weeks ago. I suppose that price is also affected by location.Junk Yard Dog wrote:They would pay an insane $275-$300 here. I say insane because the most expensive M38 I ever bought was the rare date 1939, and that was the immense sum ( at the time) of $200. Once spoiled by prices like that you never want to deal with the reality of changing times and higher prices.
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Only if you do not have a C&R FFL, if you have it then you are dealing with every location in all 50 states.awalker1829 wrote:Indeed. I got my non-Molot 1943 M38 for $200 just a couple of weeks ago. I suppose that price is also affected by location.Junk Yard Dog wrote:They would pay an insane $275-$300 here. I say insane because the most expensive M38 I ever bought was the rare date 1939, and that was the immense sum ( at the time) of $200. Once spoiled by prices like that you never want to deal with the reality of changing times and higher prices.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
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Re: Tell me more about my M38
If you don't mind me asking, where did you buy it? And how much? I haven't seen any of the Molot M38's around.OldRussian wrote:Hello this is my first time posting and first Mosin.
I would greatly appreciate if you guys could tell me more about this rifle. This is what I have figured out through my research:
-1944 Izhevsk M38
-wartime production stock
-likely forced numbers matching?
-not counter-bored
-not extremely rare
What do you guys think? Also, is it ok to remove the cosmoline? (NOT SANDING)
Matt