Hi there. I have a Tula arsenal 91/30 purchased online (not sure what year. I don't quite yet know how to determine that) with a bit of an issue with the bolt safety.
The bolt safety (located at the aft end of the bolt) is supposed to be drawn back by hand then twisted and released until it rests on the upper receiver.
Unfortunately, it's near impossible for me to get the thing to move, much less into position. A roommate of mine (old Vietnam Marine vet) was able to get it to move after working at it awhile, but I can't do it myself.
I'd like to be able to safe the weapon for when I'm not actively holding it, while still being able to take it off safe without much effort in case it is ever needed in a pinch (what's the point of an unloaded weapon or a weapon that can't be fired?).
Is it possible to somehow repair the bolt safety, replace just the safety, or would I have to replace the entire bolt? I don't know if there's rust inside the bolt (probably didn't apply any cosmoline in there), or if there are issues with the spring.
Thanks!
91/30 Safety repair or replacement?
Re: 91/30 Safety repair or replacement?
No there is nothing wrong with your bolt, the "safety" on a mosin is next to useless.. No one really uses it, and infact I think it has been discussed that even the Russians were trained to walk around with the bolt open, when the rifle was not in use. Just forget its there and eather open the bolt or leave it unloaded.
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Re: 91/30 Safety repair or replacement?
The safety on the Mosin is to open the bolt, nobody uses the cocking knob to safe the weapon, fooling with it has sometimes caused negligent discharges.
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Re: 91/30 Safety repair or replacement?
That bolt safety is potentially more likely to cause accidental discharge in some cases. I think if you are thinking home defense, this is not the weapon I would choose. I choose not to load the mosin nagant rifle until I am stationary and preparing to shoot. That is my choice though. You can load the mag just don't load the chamber. I know not everyone will look at this the same but it is simply more safe. I have a 45 auto that I don't typically keep the chamber loaded. If it was just me in the house, I would keep it loaded but to be assured of no accidental discharge, I choose not to keep a round in the chamber. It is up to individual ultimately. Be safe. 
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Re: 91/30 Safety repair or replacement?
I live in the Pacific Northwet. Will humidity pose any issue in the chamber if I leave the bolt open?
Re: 91/30 Safety repair or replacement?
I took mine out this morning to put some rounds through. I do use the safety but when I Un did the safety pulled the bolt back the safety re engaged off the "track" is that something that i should worry about? For a couple of seconds I was trying to push the bolt back with the safety off its track until I realized what happened.
Re: 91/30 Safety repair or replacement?
The airflow will actually help. Oil the inside of the barrel as well.Bayushi wrote:I live in the Pacific Northwet. Will humidity pose any issue in the chamber if I leave the bolt open?
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Re: 91/30 Safety repair or replacement?
You twisted it too far when you unsafed it. Like was stated earlier, the MN safety poses more problems than it solves. One is best served by not using it, and only closing the bolt when you are set to fire.Armidaios wrote:I took mine out this morning to put some rounds through. I do use the safety but when I Un did the safety pulled the bolt back the safety re engaged off the "track" is that something that i should worry about? For a couple of seconds I was trying to push the bolt back with the safety off its track until I realized what happened.
“Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” George Orwell, English novelist, essayist, and critic, 1903-1950
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Re: 91/30 Safety repair or replacement?
The easy way to use the safety:
1) hold the rifle in you're left hand
2) place butt plate against your right bicep
3) use 2 fingers and thumb from right hand to manipulate safety
doing it this way allows you to pull without having to fight the spring while trying to hold the rifle tight.
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1) hold the rifle in you're left hand
2) place butt plate against your right bicep
3) use 2 fingers and thumb from right hand to manipulate safety
doing it this way allows you to pull without having to fight the spring while trying to hold the rifle tight.
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Re: 91/30 Safety repair or replacement?
Flyin Brian wrote:The easy way to use the safety:
1) hold the rifle in you're left hand
2) place butt plate against your right bicep
3) use 2 fingers and thumb from right hand to manipulate safety
doing it this way allows you to pull without having to fight the spring while trying to hold the rifle tight.
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Yes.
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Re: 91/30 Safety repair or replacement?
I wasn't sure if you were thinking of using it for home protection or something else. Or if you live in the country where a loaded rifle is more common. But a high powered rifle is a bad choice for home defense. I have heard of some who do.