Gun dealer identified my new Mosin/Nagant incorrectly?!

[HotGlock]

I think my local gun dealer made a mistake when identifying my new rifle.
Can anyone help me to correctly identify it?

He told me it was a '48 Russian Mosin/Nagant 91/30 - It sure does look like a '47.
Also can anyone figure out the original place of manufacture by the markings?

Thanks!

[BuckeyeSgt]

Kind of looks like 1941. Izhevsk 91/30
Is that first 1 the same as the last digit?

[HotGlock]

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[HotGlock]

Kind of looks like 1941. Izhevsk 91/30
Is that first 1 the same as the last digit?

That sounds correct -both are ones not 7's
Do the other markings line up with this theory?

[bunkysdad]

41 or light struck 44? Hmmmmmm

[HotGlock]

41 or light struck 44? Hmmmmmm

It does look like a 1941 stamp. I had to really shine some light on it with a magnifying glass.
What made me think it was a 1947 was the remarkable shape this rifle is in- Looks almost perfect - 2 minor scratches in the varnish on the stock other than that I cant find anything wrong with it. Looks like it was barely ever fired.
I am guessing the 1941 mosin is more valuable due to it being made during wartime...
Is that a correct assumption?

[ffeng31]

1941 Izhevsk M91/30 . No more or less valuable than any other form that period. The hexes and rifles with unique markings tend to fetch a small amount more. If it were a 41 Tula ? Well thats a different story....

[HotGlock]

Thanks Ffeng31

[desdem12]

41 Izhevsk

[bunkysdad]

Usually the rarity based on how many were made in a particular year kind of dictates the value. In the war years they made a huge number because no matter how many they cranked out, it wasn't enough. Hex receiver and Tula rifles tend to bring a little more because a lot of collectors think they are more cool. The quality is the same and the receiver strength is the same. The 1941 Tula is hard to find due to low production from the Tula plant that year and could bring more $$$. Personally I like the Tula and Izhevsk guns pretty much the same.

[Dan4good]

im going with 41 izhevsk

[Miller Tyme]

This is what a 47 stamped 91/30 reciever looks like.............

[Junk Yard Dog]

Early 1941 before the wartime rush started.

[racerguy00]

You got a nice looking rifle there. A perfect example of early '41 manufacture. Check out the difference a few months and a massive German invasion can have on production techniques:




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[Ironnewt]

Did your dealer say why he thought it was a 1948?

[BenedictGomez]

Did your dealer say why he thought it was a 1948?

I'm guessing he meant 1947 and got fat with the finger on the 8.

[HotGlock]

Did your dealer say why he thought it was a 1948?

Personal opinion is = His eyes are getting bad
Kinda worked out good all in all - prolly woulda bumped up the price if he saw it correctly

[zeebill]

Did your dealer say why he thought it was a 1948?

Would you believe he has nine fingers! It is late and I get this way when I can't sleep. By the way I see 1944 in a light strike. Bill

[Ironnewt]

Did your dealer say why he thought it was a 1948?

Would you believe he has nine fingers! It is late and I get this way when I can't sleep. By the way I see 1944 in a light strike. Bill

Now the way I see it the ones are identical and the / on the four is straight while the / on the ones curve slightly towards the bottom of the downstroke.

[martin08]

The real 1947 posted above by Miller is a RARE find. Very few M91/30's were produced after the war, and they do fetch a considerable premium when a seller understands what he has.