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My AMD-65. I built this one, and my Dad liked it so much, we had to build one together. Fun project:
Rongo shot mine, and wanted one also. so a third build was done:
Another friend, Louie, trying it out. Now I have the hankering to build an AK pistol, but no $$$!
"Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum." -Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus
Murphy was an optimist.
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an
invasion, butcher a hog, design a building, conn a ship, write a
sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the
dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve an
equation, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects - Robert A. Heinlien
I want to build one sometime but the price of parts kits and the tools have been going up. Did you build them yourself? How much did all the tools needed to put them together run you?
Let me make a short, open, blanket comment. There are no good guns. There are no bad guns. Any gun in the hands of a bad man is a bad thing. Any gun in the hands of a descent person is no threat to anyone--- except bad people. -- Charleton Heston
Guns are not good, they are not evil. Save those descriptions for the people holding the firearm. -- Unknown
1943 Izhevsk
1937 Izhevsk
1935/48/50 Tula (hex)
1939 Tula (laminate stock)
And many other firearms
With occasional exceptions, the price of parts kits will continue to rise and they will get harder to find - especially the more unusual variations and anything with an original barrel. If you just want a shooter AK, those O-PAP or whatever they are called new Yugoslavian made rifles from Century are a smoking deal. And of course there are the Saiga and VEPR rifles, Arsenal if you want to spend a little more.
Earlier Chinese, Egyptian Maadi, Romanian, and Hungarian imports are out there too, although living here in California we can't get those because they are on the Marxist Sodomite pedophile kleptomaniac thieve's (aka, Democrat politicians) ban list. Around here, and in general, the closest you can get to an original Comblock military AK without building it is a WASR-10/63. These are genuine original Communist Warsaw Pact era Romanian military AK's that have been rebuilt at the arsenal that originally made them, using a new production semi-automatic receiver instead of the original full auto one which of course our kind and thoughtful overlords will not let us have. I recently saw some Hungarian made AK's for sale that appear to be all Hungarian made except the required U.S. 922(r) stuff, but don't know if these are assembled in Hungary with all original military parts on a new receiver, or new made parts like the currently imported Yugo AK variations.
And there are a few companies that do offer AK variations built up here using foreign parts kits. Besides the 922(r) crap, these usually have U.S. made barrels and receivers.
One of the advantages to building your own is that you can build and own a version - often a rather rare one - that is not otherwise obtainable. So while I have less into my WASR, Saiga, Polish Hellpup, or Draco than I will have into my Soviet builds or my Polish underfolder, six or seven hundred dollars will not get you a '69 Izhmash AKM or a Polish underfolder with Polish barrel and receiver.
I plan to assemble my rifles myself, with guidance and assistance from experienced and highly regarded local AK builders who have all the necessary tools, equipment, and supplies. This makes better financial and practical sense, at least in my case, than buying the tools and trying to do it all by myself.
Here's my WASR 10/63. It's a plain jane, but it eats everything I feed it. After putting it on paper to get the front sight adjusted it shoots pretty good, especially for an AK variant.
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Thanks for the info marcus. I've been wanting to build one for a while but with how everything has shot up I'm not sure it is worth it. Unless I just want a project. I've already got a saiga I converted and a wasr. Just thinking about future ak collecting. While I like my ar I really really like my ak's and they would be my go to rifles I believe.
Let me make a short, open, blanket comment. There are no good guns. There are no bad guns. Any gun in the hands of a bad man is a bad thing. Any gun in the hands of a descent person is no threat to anyone--- except bad people. -- Charleton Heston
Guns are not good, they are not evil. Save those descriptions for the people holding the firearm. -- Unknown
1943 Izhevsk
1937 Izhevsk
1935/48/50 Tula (hex)
1939 Tula (laminate stock)
And many other firearms
There are a number of fixed stock Polish AKM kits that just came on the market - several of the dealers and AK parts sellers have them. I think they are in the $400 range.
Take one of these, one of the virgin Romanian barrels from APEX (they have a limited amount of these, no prospects of getting any more, and when they're gone - they're gone), and one of the fully hardened and heat-treated 80% Polish receivers from Cameron "Dark Knight" Childers at Childers Guns, and you would have a pretty nice rifle that is as close to a Communist era Polish AK as one is likely to ever find. Since I already have a few Polish military AKM barrels and Polish Radom receivers, I wish I had the spare funds to pick one of these up. But my Polish underfolder and Soviet AKM build projects have pretty much eaten up any spare funds that aren't already set aside for my dog rescue/shelter/sanctuary.
ponycarman wrote:I want to build one sometime but the price of parts kits and the tools have been going up. Did you build them yourself? How much did all the tools needed to put them together run you?
All three were screw builds, so I didn't need any special tools. All used completed recievers, so no bending or such. I drilled out the rivets, and put the screws in. I guess taps were the only tools I needed to get. I usually have 6-48 and 8-40 taps around but these took 10-28 and 1/4-20 taps. A lot of people malign screw builds, but as long as they are done correctly, I see no problem with them. All three builds are solid and rock steady. I have well over 2000 rounds through mine, I stopped counting after that. YOu'll use up a lot of Dremel cutting wheels getting the old rivets out, be warned.
"Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum." -Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus
Murphy was an optimist.
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an
invasion, butcher a hog, design a building, conn a ship, write a
sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the
dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve an
equation, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects - Robert A. Heinlien
bimmey wrote:entropy, what is the stock on the second AMD 65 you posted? I'd like to put one of those on mine.
ATI Sidefolder. My Dad wanted that because he didn't like the wire stock. I wanted mine to look as stock as possible so kept mine. I think I ordered it from Galati International, but Cheaper than Dirt had them, too.
"Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum." -Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus
Murphy was an optimist.
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an
invasion, butcher a hog, design a building, conn a ship, write a
sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the
dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve an
equation, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects - Robert A. Heinlien
Sirex wrote:After October 1, 2013, AKs will be banned here in MD. Still trying to get a Vepr in 54r, but most dealers won't sell to MD already. wish me luck
Yeah, Lucky Us.
Damn, I'll bet that's going to leave a mark! Probably hurt too!
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you know, like NASCAR drivers, so we could
identify their corporate sponsors."
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OK; since the thread is about showing our AK rifles, here's one of mine. It's a clone of an NVA Type 56 Vietnam-era rifle, built on a semi-auto CNCWarrior receiver using a Chinese Screw-in barrel and parts kit. Not 100% perfect, but still good enough to suit my tastes.
I painted and stippled the handguard to my saiga. It doesn't match perfectly but its close. It will hold me over till I can get ak furniture on it. Its an ak and doesn'treally have to be perfect .
Let me make a short, open, blanket comment. There are no good guns. There are no bad guns. Any gun in the hands of a bad man is a bad thing. Any gun in the hands of a descent person is no threat to anyone--- except bad people. -- Charleton Heston
Guns are not good, they are not evil. Save those descriptions for the people holding the firearm. -- Unknown
1943 Izhevsk
1937 Izhevsk
1935/48/50 Tula (hex)
1939 Tula (laminate stock)
And many other firearms
Started as a Saiga/Arsenal SGL21-72 (Plum NATO length stock).
Ironwood Designs Baltic Birch Laminate NATO length w/ their "Russian Red" finish.
Standard modifications:
Krebs FCG retainer
Recoil buffer
G2 Trigger group
Steel Polish mags
Surplus Russian sling
Cheers
jimB
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and hey I like that Bald Eagle.
