M91 Westinghouse aka Forget whatever I said

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:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :pointup:
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
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Sometimes it seems like I learn something NEW every day. :D Ok, that was bad, I admit it.
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Homer2 wrote:I guess the stock is correct. That's a new one for me. Very unusual find and great rifle. Don't change a thing.
Well that's great to know. Luckier than even I suspected, just thinking I got a rifle which would be usually unaffordable!



Uh no lol not making a mistake twice :brolleyes:


Nothing is going to be touched on this one.
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racerguy00 wrote:Sometimes it seems like I learn something NEW every day. :D Ok, that was bad, I admit it.


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:roll: :roll:
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Hi Zhuk, nice rifle.

I kept thinking that your rifle might be in a Remington stock because of the dated cartouche but apparently that is not the case, I learned a little something too.

Thanks for posting and congrats on your latest aquisition. :thumbsup:

http://62x54r.net/MosinID/NEWStock_small.jpg

http://62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinMarks01.htm
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The evil/ e-bay has 91 barrel bands at the moment.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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Yours is a really, really nice rifle zhuk, I like that one alot :Drool1:
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mbogo3 wrote:The evil/ e-bay has 91 barrel bands at the moment.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Yesterday there were two sellers one at $45 + $5 shipping and one at $56.95 + $8.99 shipping. Half the price of a 91/30 ;-)
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Cwcoolcow wrote:
mbogo3 wrote:The evil/ e-bay has 91 barrel bands at the moment.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Yesterday there were two sellers one at $45 + $5 shipping and one at $56.95 + $8.99 shipping. Half the price of a 91/30 ;-)

Yep, I saw that one. Or 1/10th, depending on your location lol


If it shoots OK with the bands a lil loose, I'll leave it as is :) But handy to know they are around.
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bb91 wrote:Hi Zhuk, nice rifle.

I kept thinking that your rifle might be in a Remington stock because of the dated cartouche but apparently that is not the case, I learned a little something too.

Thanks for posting and congrats on your latest aquisition. :thumbsup:

http://62x54r.net/MosinID/NEWStock_small.jpg

http://62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinMarks01.htm

Gotta love teaching people stuff when you don't even realise you are doing it :lol:


Thanks bb91 :biggrin: Yeah I saw those 7.62 net links as well, which sparked off the whole "uncommon"?? :? question.

So from what's been said here, it must be an early-production NEW stock to have been dated?
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That is absolutely beautiful Zhuk! :Drool1: :Drool1: 8-) Congrats on the incredible pickup! :thumbsup:
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Titanium Hammer wrote:That is absolutely beautiful Zhuk! :Drool1: :Drool1: 8-) Congrats on the incredible pickup! :thumbsup:

Thanks TH :)


Have had it proppped up against a wall for appreciation-purposes for a few days now lol


Definately worth it for roughly 500 bucks. Really never thought I would even see an 1891 model, let alone possess one! M91/30s are pretty thin on the ground down here, and there would be few owners of the older variety.

Still can't get over how well it feeds/extracts :thumbsup: no insult meant to all my other Mosins, but DAMN it is sweet in that regard lol
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Homer2 wrote:Leave the band's as they are. Those parts belong with that rifle, don't separate them.

The stock catouche indicates the stock is from a Tula rifle. Westinghouse had the cartilage on the left and says 'English Contract'.

Really great Civil Guard rifle. Made in the Meriden, CT plant.

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Re the Meriden info above I came across this page on the history of the Meriden Fire Arms Company

The British, through their American financial agents, arranged a contract with Remington Arms for over a million Mosin Nagant rifles of the latest Russian pattern and also with New England Westinghouse for the production of 900,000 M1891 on behalf of the Imperial Government.

To fill this order New England Westinghouse needed to increase its manufacturing capacity. In 1916 the Meriden Fire Arms Company manufacturing facility was sold to New England Westinghouse. Meriden Fire Arms continued to produce some firearms in another facility on Center Street in Meriden until 1918 when Sears announced that the Meriden Fire Arms Company would discontinue the manufacture of sporting guns.


http://www.meridenfirearms.com/history.html


Would I be right in thinking that if 'in 1916 the Meriden Fire Arms Company manufacturing facility was sold to New England Westinghouse" then that could confirm this stock is indeed a very early-produced one?
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Approximately 1/3 of the original contract, by number. Original contract was for 1,500,000 but not sure how many they actualy made. Some of these guys know though. :thumbsup:
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Damn beautiful.
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Just realized it was you that started this thread Zhuk, damn nice find :thumbsup:
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TheSovietSamurai wrote:Just realized it was you that started this thread Zhuk, damn nice find :thumbsup:

Hey thanks Samurai


You guessed right where I obtained it from too lol

I agree the Russian M91's were a bit steep! :shock:


So this was my only opportunity - even though I couldn't really afford it lol


Still, a pretty fitting finale, I thought :thumbsup:
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Finale shminale. Give it up. You aren't done yet.
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millman wrote:Finale shminale. Give it up. You aren't done yet.
:lol:

Hehe.

Wondering how long that would take, millman!


You beat my estimations about about an hour or so lol
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