Winchester Model 1897 Trench Gun
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Winchester Model 1897 Trench Gun
The original riot shotgun, and this one is an original Winchester, not a Chinese copy. WW1 production, with both US and police markings it remains as solid today as it was 90 years ago. It is still on duty kept close to hand as I sleep, because there is no trigger disconnector it will fire all it's rounds very quickly, just hold back the trigger and work the slide to fire it. Mounts the 1917 bayonet. People keep offering me all sorts of money or trades for this shotgun, no way I will sell my favorite, this one I am taking with me
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
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Re: Winchester Model 1897 Trench Gun
I like that! 
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Very nice
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What's the r in rpd stand for?
“Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” George Orwell, English novelist, essayist, and critic, 1903-1950
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
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Re: Winchester Model 1897 Trench Gun
Ridgefield Connecticut Police Department #13 They would have had this in the 40's and 50's
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
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Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
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This gun is nice. My brother has one at pawn shop but not this clean and sometime in past has had a Cutts Compensator added to barrell. Yeah US marked with flaming bomb and a freakin Cutts Compensator. 
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I just fell out of my chair... 
That is nice.
That is nice.
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Thanks Ron, It's my best shotgun, The one that comes with me when the food riots start.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
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Re: Winchester Model 1897 Trench Gun
What Year was it made?
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Probably about 20 years ago I wrote down when it was made, how I found out I don't remember, what I did with the book I wrote everything down in I also don't remember. I know it was just before the Great War or during it.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
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That is one nice looking shotgun.
Damn, I'll bet that's going to leave a mark! Probably hurt too!
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"I think Congressmen should wear uniforms,
you know, like NASCAR drivers, so we could
identify their corporate sponsors."
"When I die, I want to be facing my enemies surrounded by their dead bodies and piles of spent brass"
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It's the sort of thing that comes along once in a lifetime, you jump on it or spend the next 40 years watching their prices climb thinking you should have got it back when.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
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Now that's a shotgun! 
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Best pump shotgun in history so far as I am concerned. John Browning designed guns tend to be like that
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
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I love that shotgun! 
Do you know what Police dept. R.P.D. represents?
Sorry Jim, was scrolling back through and just saw the Ridgefield PD connection. Any history on Ridgefield that may conect to this Shotgun? Good chance they used it during prohibition.
Semper Fi, Rob
Do you know what Police dept. R.P.D. represents? Sorry Jim, was scrolling back through and just saw the Ridgefield PD connection. Any history on Ridgefield that may conect to this Shotgun? Good chance they used it during prohibition.
Semper Fi, Rob
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That is one heck of a shotgun, something I doubt I'll ever run across, nice pics of the flaming bomb proof, Beautiful shotgun thanks for posting.
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Re: Winchester Model 1897 Trench Gun
It could have been, Ridgefield is a medium sized town over in Connecticut, they have a small department that wasn't called Ridgefield Connecticut Police Department until 1955, they probably had this shotgun for some time before that. I got no history with it other than it was a police trade in many years ago. The town is 300 years old, so I am guessing some interesting things must have happened there over the years, the area does not seem to have been a hotspot of prohibition era activity, more an escape for wealthy New York City types , and later suburbanites.Sgt. Rob wrote:I love that shotgun!
Sorry Jim, was scrolling back through and just saw the Ridgefield PD connection. Any history on Ridgefield that may conect to this Shotgun? Good chance they used it during prohibition.
Semper Fi, Rob
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
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They are out there, but watch out for the sticker shock. The Chinese reproduce this gun, but it's nothing like the real thing.etprescottazusa91 wrote:That is one heck of a shotgun, something I doubt I'll ever run across, nice pics of the flaming bomb proof, Beautiful shotgun thanks for posting.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
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Beauty.
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