My first black powder rifle!

[Junk Yard Dog]

Good way to put my back out also, a coffee can full of .75's runs around 38 pounds a can give or take a pound.

[desdem12]

I have a dedicated BP range bag and one with other stuff in it. I would never put all that stuff in the possibles. Way to heavy. That is why I have the little pouches with balls in them. They are heavy enough without carrying 100 of each caliber. Maybe that is why my back is out.

[ponycarman]

Good way to have the pants fall down .

Hmmm so thats why all these gangsta's have their pants on the ground . To much lead round ball in their pockets

[Junk Yard Dog]

Migrated there from their brains

[ponycarman]

That can't be it then. There isn't that much up there to migrate down

[iwuzwhatiwuz]

That can't be it then. There isn't that much up there to migrate down

I have a large tool box I have made in my "possibles box". I thought it would be too big, but it's shrunk considerably in the past month.

[ponycarman]

Haha maybe if I get a small bag it will keep me from spending too much money

[Celt]

Haha maybe if I get a small bag it will keep me from spending too much money

That's the funniest thing I've heard all day!!

[ponycarman]

I know, I guess I'm far past that line

[Junk Yard Dog]

[ponycarman]

Anyone ever head of or used "american pioneer" powder? I stopped in another shop today and saw some ff. I had never heard of it so I passed. I did get some #11 caps and a box of .454 round balls.

[Celt]

I would go with fff, unless you like large Sparks.

[ponycarman]

I have to go fff in my pistol. But I can use ff in the rifle. Either ff or fff really I guess.

[desdem12]

I used it for a while but dislike it (American pioneer powder). It cleans nice but is very inconsistent as far as shooting. I did use up the pound though. I like the goex brand better and it stays more consistent for me. It may work for you but I am not gonna try any more of it. There also is jim shockeys gold too. Have not tried it though.
I use ffg in rifles

[ponycarman]

I may just grab a pound of triple seven from academy so I can shoot at least one until I can order some powder. I don't know how course it was. Probably ffg. That seems to be the only thing around here. There isn't much to pick from lol.

[Junk Yard Dog]

777 is fine in a caplock, it's only flinters that it's problematic in. Remember that this stuff sucks moisture out of the air as fast as corrosive primer residue, only faster, and there is more of it, but on the other hand it cleans very easily with boiling water.

[iwuzwhatiwuz]

It seems with American Pioneer Powder people have one of two opinions about the stuff. They either love it - or hate it. I've always wondered if the reason is inconsistent quality between batches. Alliant's Black MZ is regarded as being possibly the best BP sub but it's impossible to find around here.

[Junk Yard Dog]

Shooters of holy black hate the subs, and sub shooters hate cleaning up after holy black. I don't hold much with the subs myself, but with the past uncertain supply of black powder I had little choice but to use them.

[iwuzwhatiwuz]

I have no problem with either. I shoot black powder because it's cheaper and there is TONS of load data. If I was hunting with a modern inline I would use 777 or Buckhorn 209 - most likely.

[Junk Yard Dog]

Fastest way to start a food fight on a traditional black powder forum is to mention the word "inline" Like saying "refinish" here. They HATE inlines, not entirely sure why, I haven't spent enough time monitoring the BP forums in some time, I have no time