Lyman Trade Rifle .50 Cal
Lyman Trade Rifle .50 Cal
This is the only other black powder rifle I own. I bought this one in PA when I was stationed there in USAF. Flintlocks are used for hunting in PA during primitive season. I love the dark European walnut stock.
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Very nice, the European walnut is some of the nicest in the world. We have a Black powder season down here also. My son got an 8 point last season his first with Black powder. Nice rifle
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Whoa! The Lymans are some nice firearms. This one is a 10!
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Wow gorgeous!
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How does it shoot round balls? I am looking at getting one but am concerned that the 1 in 48 twist is too fast for lead balls. Thanks!
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The 1 in 48" works fine with round ball. It is an all around barrel and I have that twist in both my TC Renegade and the Lyman Trader Rifle. Both rifles shoot the round balls better than the conicals, sabot, or maxi-ball rounds. If you want one that works best with round ball, I recommend a Lyman Great Plains rifle with a 1 in 66" twist; that will be the MOST accurate with round ball. If you want to shoot the TC Maxi-ball or sabot conicals, a faster twist (1 in 28") is preferred.
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Thanks. I like the looks and price of the trade rifle. I have read that the Lyman flintlocks, along with the Pedersoli's, are considered the best "production" flintlocks. I think I'll place that order for one from Dixie Gun Works. ![smile :)](./images/smilies/smile.gif)
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BEE-YOO-TEE-FULL wood!
Is it flintlocks only for the PA primitive hunt, or percussion too. (Or wheellock, or matchlock?)
tjtM38 is correct that 1:66 is the best for round balls, and faster than 1:48 would be better for conicals. My Traditions Hawken has 1:48, and took a deer out at 125 yds. several years ago with a Buffalo Bore 385 gr. HBHP conical. I do get acceptable accuracy with round balls out to 100 yds. also.
I have a freind who has the Great Plains Rifle, and tried conicals, but went back to round balls, as they were more accurate.
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tjtM38 is correct that 1:66 is the best for round balls, and faster than 1:48 would be better for conicals. My Traditions Hawken has 1:48, and took a deer out at 125 yds. several years ago with a Buffalo Bore 385 gr. HBHP conical. I do get acceptable accuracy with round balls out to 100 yds. also.
I have a freind who has the Great Plains Rifle, and tried conicals, but went back to round balls, as they were more accurate.
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invasion, butcher a hog, design a building, conn a ship, write a
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At the time I lived in PA, it was muzzleloading flintlock ignition only with a patched round ball projectile and no scopes. I understand they have relaxed that standard to allow the conicals and sabots, but it is still flintlock ignition. The Lyman Rifles were recommended by Dixon Muzzleloading (Kempton, PA) as the salesman said that short of buying a custom rifle, the Lymans were the stongest with the hardest frizzens. If you get the Trade Rifle, you won't be disappointed. However, find you a source for BLACK POWDER. These rifles don't work well with Pyrodex and other substitute propellants, because ignition for the higher temperatures required to light the stuff off is just too tough for a flintlock. I use Goex FFG for the main charge and Goex FFFFG for the priming powder.entropy wrote:BEE-YOO-TEE-FULL wood!Is it flintlocks only for the PA primitive hunt, or percussion too. (Or wheellock, or matchlock?)
tjtM38 is correct that 1:66 is the best for round balls, and faster than 1:48 would be better for conicals. My Traditions Hawken has 1:48, and took a deer out at 125 yds. several years ago with a Buffalo Bore 385 gr. HBHP conical. I do get acceptable accuracy with round balls out to 100 yds. also.
I have a freind who has the Great Plains Rifle, and tried conicals, but went back to round balls, as they were more accurate.
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How many times have I heard someone say " flintlock? you can't hunt with them, too slow, you pull the trigger and they go woooooooooosh......Boom" Then we explore what kind of powder they have been using, and how much of it they are dumping in the pan. Black powder only, and only enough in the pan to reach the bottom of the touch hole.
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How's the trigger on your Trade rifle? I'm debating ordering the Trade rifle or the Great Plains Kit and I'm wondering if the set trigger on the GPR is worth the extra work. Thanks!
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Set triggers are a marksman's tool, the Cadillac of triggers.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
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The trigger on the trade rifle is not a double set trigger, but it let's off clean and I like it. Don't think you would get that much more out of the double set trigger with the flintlock. The Trade Rifle is handier than the GPR; it's shorter and lighter, although it is still all steel, brass, and wood.iwuzwhatiwuz wrote:How's the trigger on your Trade rifle? I'm debating ordering the Trade rifle or the Great Plains Kit and I'm wondering if the set trigger on the GPR is worth the extra work. Thanks!
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Well I ordered my Trade Rifle today. I can't wait to go make some smoke!
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That is some nice wood on that rifle.
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Good deal! I look forward to seeing the pics. I'm very fortunate to have lived in eastern PA and experienced the fun of shooting and owning the Trade Rifle. I was able to go pick out the rifle with the wood I liked and get some great advice from the folks at Dixon muzzleloading about how to shoot a flintlock. My next trip to the range will be with this rifle. Nobody shoots flintlocks down here, so I will either get a lot of interest or a lot of laughs from the AR and AK folks.iwuzwhatiwuz wrote:Well I ordered my Trade Rifle today. I can't wait to go make some smoke!
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I would like to see a range report on some of these black powder rifles. They look like fun.
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