Lee Enfield No.4 MArk1*

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We used to have detailed instructions for that setup someplace, must have been on the old forum.
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Eddystone06 wrote:
just remember, reverse thread!
so thats why I had no success. didnt want to force anything so just left it alone. the book I have says nothing on front sight adjustment.
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Hi Detour rd.

Most No4 front sights do not have the pinch screw they are just drifted from side to side on a dove tail.
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then whats this on the front of the sight.

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He said most, not all.
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that is a pre/post war produced front sight. savage and LB used them early on but then as demand grew they went to the pressure type which suck!
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Not as convenient maybe, but no worse than the Mosin.
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As far as being the best No.4... I like my Longbranch the most, now that's a good rifle eh?

Just looking at the crown of your rifle, it looks like a sweet shooter. These things are very picky when it comes to stock fit, inherent with the two piece design of the furniture I guess. One interesting thing about the No.4 is that they seem to tighten up the further out you shoot them. Something to do with the bullet not properly stabilizing until it gets quite a ways out there.

My Canadian and American No.4 Mk1* rifles both have the pinch screw, but my British No.4 Mk1 is just a normal dove tail.
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My Savage has the screw, I forget what the Long Branches have, they have been stored away for some time. One is a bit less convenient that the other but both get the job done.
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target wrote:As far as being the best No.4... I like my Longbranch the most, now that's a good rifle eh?

Just looking at the crown of your rifle, it looks like a sweet shooter. These things are very picky when it comes to stock fit, inherent with the two piece design of the furniture I guess. One interesting thing about the No.4 is that they seem to tighten up the further out you shoot them. Something to do with the bullet not properly stabilizing until it gets quite a ways out there.

My Canadian and American No.4 Mk1* rifles both have the pinch screw, but my British No.4 Mk1 is just a normal dove tail.
it stabilizes at roughly 300 yards depending on bullet, powder and fps of course.
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I know next to nothing about Enfields but they always seem really rough. Which is to say I think your rifle is really sharp to say the least! And what impresses me the most is how tight the muzzle is. I'd be shooting that rifle at my local matches in a hurry!

I have a big soft spot for receiver mounted peep sights like the 1903a3, the Garand, and rifles like yours of course. Really sweet rifle you have. Keep us posted on how it shoots out past 100 yards.

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Rough Enfield? That is something I have rarely ever seen, Even the Indian 7.62's were not that bad. Rough would apply to some Chinese Mauser's or well used Turks, Romanian M91's sometimes, but not so many Enfields.
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Junk Yard Dog wrote:Rough Enfield? That is something I have rarely ever seen, Even the Indian 7.62's were not that bad. Rough would apply to some Chinese Mauser's or well used Turks, Romanian M91's sometimes, but not so many Enfields.
I agree, "rough" isn't usually associated with a L.E. but that all depends on exactly what he is describing JYD. maybe he came across some with beat up stocks? then I can say it is a legitimate use of the term but if he is describing machining then I would have to say NO WAY!
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The British and most of the commonwealth country's have pretty high standards for infantry rifles yesterday and today. I remember how nice all the Australian No1's were when they came in, of course Bubba could have had hands on one.
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I think he is primarily talking about the stocks. I have seen a lot of rough stocks, complete with nice smooth receivers and metal.
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I saw some really rough Chinese Mosins at the Philidelphia National Guard Armory gun show today. The stocks looked like they were dragged on a rocky road. Maybe Korean war capture? What made the whole thing worth it was I found some Lee Enfield stripper clips. And Mosin. Oh yeah, another 440 rounds of Russian in a lead sealed can.
A good day all in all. Hex receiver Mosins and there were a few Snipers :?: for around 5-600 bucks.
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7point62 wrote:I know next to nothing about Enfields but they always seem really rough. Which is to say I think your rifle is really sharp to say the least! And what impresses me the most is how tight the muzzle is. I'd be shooting that rifle at my local matches in a hurry!

I have a big soft spot for receiver mounted peep sights like the 1903a3, the Garand, and rifles like yours of course. Really sweet rifle you have. Keep us posted on how it shoots out past 100 yards.

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Sad it is to be ignorant. What is a "pinch screw"?
I have a beauty of a '45 Long Branch with a 5 groove barrel, that shoots sweet. They're nice little tanks. Very solid the No.4 is and very accurate as well.
You might try adjusting the feed lips on your magazine. They were not meant to be removed except for cleaning, some silly American may have practiced slamming it in and out of the rifle and pushed the lips in. The springs are easily replaced as well.
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The tiny screw on the front of the front sight base that when tightened prevents the front sight blade from drifting in either direction. You loosen the screw and gentle tap the blade and it will move without needing any real force. The screw required a special tool, but in a pinch thin needle nose pliers will do it.
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